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Special Education Community Advisory Committee Special Meeting - Shared screen with speaker view
Dennis Mah
46:36
Thanks David.
Dennis Mah
54:56
Nikki: Does SCUSD have any unfunded liabilities?
Rose Mcauliffe
56:12
Federal funds are one time but a great shot in the arm to help the district to improve hvac and apply other one time safety and health enhancements for the schools.
Kirill Lukinskiy- SDC/ID RHS
59:48
I downloaded it and it was a .PDF file.
Irina S
59:51
I don’t see ANY links in the chat
Irina S
01:00:15
could you please repost the link?
Nikki Milevsky
01:00:48
The links are in the document
Benita( Ayala) Shaw
01:01:11
thank you
Mirela Bere
01:10:39
Since we discuss mask exemption, is there a doctor note needed for the student? What is the process that we need to go through for a student to wear a shield or be totally exempt?
Nikki Milevsky
01:12:16
I suggest start by reaching out to your doctor and reaching out to your teacher about what your student's needs are and what the best way to accommodate
Nikki Milevsky
01:13:28
We are told that the district is going to provide a variety of masks and shields when asked
Kenya Martinez
01:13:58
@Mirela, if you are interested in your child attending in-person learning you can ask your pediatrician for an exemption. But here is guidance from the California Department of Ed. https://www.cde.ca.gov/sp/se/lr/om021121.asp
Mirela Bere
01:14:55
Thank you !
Heidii Sanchez - ID/SDC Teacher
01:21:04
I have strong communication with my parents...I text, email, and have a private FB just for my classroom. I think that really helps with my students attending distance learning on a daily basis.
Mirela Bere
01:21:40
If the student has a doctor note , will someone in the district need to approve it ? That happened in another district that the superintendent needed to approve it before the student could attend school wearing a shield. I have a child in another district w mask exemption
Irina S
01:23:44
Can you please repost the document/links to earlier presentation?
Nafeesah Young
01:25:28
YES!!!! Even I get overwhelmed when I go into some classrooms because there are so many students
Stacey Willett SDC mild/mod
01:25:50
Many SDC mild/mod teachers are over caseload caps this year. Many secondary sdc mild/mod have 19-20 instead of 17
Heidii Sanchez - ID/SDC Teacher
01:26:01
There is always a shortage of SPED teachers...
Heidii Sanchez - ID/SDC Teacher
01:26:59
There are never enough to fill all the SPED positions...extreme shortage of Speech Therapists, Occupational Therapists, etc...
Kylinn Merriman
01:27:30
I agree with Nafeesah. For so many of my students with sensory struggles, being in a classroom with 12 or 15 students is just too many. I haven’t seen our numbers for who is coming back in April, but it’s hard to imagine that we will have enough space.
Shelly Cooper
01:28:18
Lower class sizes and more teachers would help mitigate learning loss that has occurred for ALL students, especially for the next couple of years.
Nikki Milevsky
01:32:19
@mirela I do not know what the district's process is for approving doctor's note requests. I suggest starting with your principal or the Special Ed department
Nafeesah Young
01:32:24
That would be awesome
Shelly Cooper
01:35:32
Seems like CARES funding would be perfect way to fund MTSS framework for the district. It would help with Social Emotional issues that our kids will be facing, as well as learning loss. Providing UDL for tier 1 is a good place to start, but more interventions for Tier 2 and Tier 3 would be funded in order to help students accelerate learning.
Mirela Bere
01:35:33
Nikki, thank you
Erin Macy, SLP/SDC-CD, Cabrillo
01:35:53
Yes! Shelly! Agreed completely
Rose Mcauliffe
01:36:00
My son will continue to have his speech therapy and OT via zoom with a contracted vendor.
Kenya Martinez
01:36:19
Yes, Ms. Rita! What about the mental health of our kids? Do our teachers have any thoughts about returning and how to tackle the anxiety and behavior issues that they might exhibit?
Kylinn Merriman
01:36:19
Yes, Shelly, I agree this is the right time to fund MTSS.
Dennis Mah
01:36:27
Nho identified a vision screener as a tool that would have long term benefit and something the district has not secured. Are there other specific items that teachers need that have long term benefit? Will it be an administrative process that decides what is purchased or will it be negotiated or what?
Nikki Milevsky
01:36:32
Yes, we so need tier 2 and 3 interventions, This is a great opportunity
Shelly Cooper
01:38:38
My students Triennial IEP assessment needs to be started soon. Are in person assessments allowed with physical distancing, or are assessments still on hold?
Stacey Willett SDC mild/mod
01:39:23
More instructional assistants too.
Kirill Lukinskiy- SDC/ID RHS
01:39:41
Shelly- The district and SCTA agreed to a SpEd assessment MOU in late February. Assessments should be rolling out soon, in person.
Kirill Lukinskiy- SDC/ID RHS
01:40:27
I would recommend reaching out to your student's case manager regarding in-person assessments.
Shelly Cooper
01:40:42
Thank you, Kirill!
Stacey Willett SDC mild/mod
01:40:47
More social workers would be great.In some districts, every big school has their own and small school have one shared between two schools.
Kirill Lukinskiy- SDC/ID RHS
01:40:57
You're very welcome!
Nikki Milevsky
01:42:43
So true Erin. I studied Response to Intervention (the academic side of MTSS) in graduate school 20 years ago and our district still does not have tiered interventions
Taylor Kayatta
01:43:20
Getting MTSS finally fully rolled out seems to be an excellent use of one-time COVID funds! When things finally start getting back to normal, we will need to figure out just how far behind our students have fallen and identify ways to offer targeted improvement plans.
Dawn Peters - R. Parks SPED
01:43:23
To deal with anxiety as we return to our SDC classroom, I have begun open talks about going back, what it will look like, how the students feel. We have been answering questions and I took pictures of the school and classroom to share with students. I will also ramp up community building and adjustment to some classmates remaining online and others back at school.
Shelly Cooper
01:45:24
If MTSS is implemented and used with fidelity, it will impact the number of students referred and qualified for special education services because they will receive UDL and interventions.
Dawn Peters - R. Parks SPED
01:50:10
Another consi
Nikki Milevsky
01:52:00
Certainly, MTSS brings intervention to students much earlier and so there will be less students in need of qualifying for Special Education
Nikki Milevsky
01:54:44
Without MTSS, the district is using a "wait to fail" model. Students have to fall so far behind before they qualify for special education and finally get interventions they need
Dennis Mah
01:57:55
David, The mortgage comparison is very helpful to understand unfunded liabilities. How much is the pay-as-you-go cost in 2020-21 for unfunded liabilities?
Lisa Arnold-Fernandez
01:59:02
@Nikki Milevsky, exactly! MTSS will be so helpful because it will get away from the "wait to fail" model. It's painful to have to wait for our kids to struggle and fail first so they can obtain necessary educational interventions.
Nikki Milevsky
02:01:12
MTSS can catch students before they fail. It is so much better for students mental heath.
Nafeesah Young
02:03:48
At my sites we always mainstream SDC kids in subjects where they excel
Taylor Kayatta
02:03:52
We need long term District-employed SpEd assessors, therapists, etc. My son started with a contracted speech therapist who was not willing to push back against the District on his incorrect assessment and get him the services he needed. District employees have more security in their position and can take the time to learn how to work within the District (form relationships with admin., etc.).
Victoria Torres
02:07:18
More RSP teachers.
Stacey Willett SDC mild/mod
02:07:40
Not all of our spec ed teachers even have aides. We have spec ed teachers who have gone years with out aides. I went without an aide for 8 years. We have three at my school right now without aides.
Shelly Cooper
02:07:43
How do you NOT have the proper assessment tools???
Stacey Willett SDC mild/mod
02:08:57
Shelly, at my site, we have 18 spec ed teachers (3 are adult transition) and for many years have shared one test kit.
Shelly Cooper
02:09:28
Wow! That is completely UNACCEPTABLE!
Shelly Cooper
02:09:47
Seems that would be ONE of many uses for some CARES funding too.
Kylinn Merriman
02:09:55
I agree, Taylor, often the NPA speech therapists are hesitant to rock the boat because they don’t have the security that we have as district employees. My co-worker who is NPA let’s be be the one to speak out and coordinate everything at our school.
Shelly Cooper
02:11:13
Perhaps we need to start going to every board meetings and bring these topics up during public comment time. EVERY MEETING!
Nafeesah Young
02:12:49
@Shelly today at the school psych meeting we learned that the principals are now responsible for providing psychs PPE (Even though the SPED dept did that before) and we won’t have access to most digital assessments for 8 weeks. When asked why 8 weeks today we were told that it would basically take that long for the checks to be cut
Erin Macy, SLP/SDC-CD, Cabrillo
02:13:01
@Shelly We don’t get curriculum sent directly each year for SDC classes. My principal orders it for me each year and it never comes with the gen ed curriculum. She ends up running to the materials lab to pick it up. Prior to this principal we started the year without curriculum every year. It’s frustrating and what Heidii explained is the reality. We are hoping this new Special Ed Admin makes changes to that
Heidii Sanchez - ID/SDC Teacher
02:13:27
Absolutely!!
Stacey Willett SDC mild/mod
02:14:34
@Shelley, many sdc teachers never get curriculum. In my 23 years at my school, there was only one year I was provided with curriculum. It was a set of grammar books that were chosen by district and totally useless.
Shelly Cooper
02:16:34
Sounds like some parents need to start filing CDE complaints and lawsuits. If the board meeting tactics don't work, then the lawsuits and CDE complaints will start getting their attention!Also, go to the newspapers. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. I don't mind squeaking if the kids get what they need!
Nafeesah Young
02:17:42
I think that is the misconception School psychologists do not diagnose we “suspect” and if there is something “suspected” then we have to look at the academic impact.
Kenya Martinez
02:18:10
https://www.ousd.org/Page/15769
Kylinn Merriman
02:18:50
I think that the teachers are open to being inclusive, but without an MTSS program where all kids switch groups to get instructional their level, it’s hard to really be inclusive at the core.
Victoria Torres
02:19:01
We need SDC at Waldorf Schools!
Kenya Martinez
02:19:30
Use this comparison, Oakland Unified a district which insolvent. https://www.ousd.org/Page/15769
Heidii Sanchez - ID/SDC Teacher
02:19:42
I think most of us already create our own individual programs with our peers...at least I do!
Heidii Sanchez - ID/SDC Teacher
02:20:19
That's news to me!
Stacey Willett SDC mild/mod
02:20:20
Jason, we have not heard of it at our site.
Stacey Willett SDC mild/mod
02:20:31
Nothing at LBHS
Taylor Kayatta
02:21:29
@Nafeesah In my case I may have used the word "diagnose," but my son's misidentification was with respect to "suspect" as well. He has childhood apraxia of speech which requires extensive intervention as early as possible, but his assessment indicated a standard speech delay despite the fact that he was completely nonverbal at age 3.5. CSUS was able to "suspect" apraxia easily and were upset on our behalf that his District assessment failed him so miserably. I'm sure others have stories like mine.
Kylinn Merriman
02:23:00
Yes, Jason, I do want to know more about the nuts and bolts of the MTSS being planned. My school wasn’t chosen and I have reached out to Jennifer Kretschman and but have not heard back.
Taylor Kayatta
02:23:35
Kenya mentioned Oakland. I've told others but I have experience with receiverships as someone who audited Inglewood a few years ago on behalf of the State. A reason parents in the CAC are so concerned about not playing "chicken" with the budget is that we see (and I saw) that non-core services... like special education and other whole student services... are often the first to be neglected to get the budget back in the black.
Nafeesah Young
02:23:43
@Taylor sadly that does happen more often than it should. Hopefully we get better so our kids get the services they deserve
Dawn Peters - R. Parks SPED
02:23:44
Thank you CAC members. I
Heidii Sanchez - ID/SDC Teacher
02:23:48
That you all for allowing us to be a part of your meeting and your discussion!
Kirill Lukinskiy- SDC/ID RHS
02:23:59
Thank you for having us!
Taylor Kayatta
02:24:22
Thank you SCTA, teachers, etc. for coming tonight!
Stacey Willett SDC mild/mod
02:24:26
I am happy to be able to be a part of this.
Jason Pelletier/RHS/RSP
02:24:34
It has been a pleasure. Thank you for the collaborating time to improve the learning of our students and schools.
Victoria Torres
02:24:47
Thank you all!
Erin Macy, SLP/SDC-CD, Cabrillo
02:24:47
We look forward to working with you!
Kylinn Merriman
02:25:10
Thanks to this group of dedicated people! I plan to keep joining you. This is such a refreshing group.
Stacey Willett SDC mild/mod
02:25:45
Thank you Kenya.
Nikki Milevsky
02:25:47
Thank you Benita and the CAC for inviting us. Good night
Nafeesah Young
02:25:59
Thank you :-)
Kirill Lukinskiy- SDC/ID RHS
02:26:04
Thank you!
Kylinn Merriman
02:26:27
Thank you Benita for leading us so well.